From oracle-admin@cs.indiana.edu Mon Sep 15 08:54:23 2003 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by moose.cs.indiana.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6/IUCS_2.53) id h8FDQ5124026; Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:26:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:26:05 -0500 (EST) From: Internet Oracle Message-Id: <200309151326.h8FDQ5124026@moose.cs.indiana.edu> To: oracle-list@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Internet Oracularities #1335 Reply-To: oracle-vote@cs.indiana.edu X-Face: )/f9dPAX/dU$1Z!U(/?A PiIJvIOtcN@L.>6,2OKd."T#S7b*{feRf.Kns23^P9.Ak{GdWWv]0*1E}RJ)_idU:(5VkN*_+bB kyrnLfC12B>V/q=z32:05`EcAd.!z#3k]h)O!ZU^E"f`@),(2WT X-Planation: X-Face can be used with www.cs.indiana.edu/ftp/faces === 1335 ================================================================= Title: Internet Oracularities #1335 Compiled-By: Steve Kinzler Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:25:54 -0500 (EST) To find out all about the Internet Oracle (TM), including how to participate, send mail to oracle@cs.indiana.edu with the word "help" in the subject line. ("Internet Oracle" is a trademark of Stephen B Kinzler.) Let us know what you like! Send your ratings of these 10 Oracularities on an integer scale of 1 ("very bad") to 5 ("very good") with the volume number to oracle-vote@cs.indiana.edu (probably just reply to this message). For example: 1335 2 1 3 4 3 5 3 3 4 1 1330 61 votes 0elm4 67kia 4cii9 3cfgf 27fne 18jif 3gpa7 2fdjc 46ogb 34fkj 1330 3.4 mean 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.5 3.7 3.6 3.0 3.4 3.4 3.8 --- 1335-01 -------------------------------------------------------------- Selected-By: "Mark Lawrence" The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > Oracle most wise, > > Who's afraid of the big, bad wolf? And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } All the animals below him on the food chain. --- 1335-02 -------------------------------------------------------------- Selected-By: "Mark Lawrence" The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > Grand wise, and elusive Oracle, > > Why is my elbow swelling up? And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } That's what happens when you cook it. } } You owe the Oracle some penne rigate. --- 1335-03 -------------------------------------------------------------- Selected-By: Klone (aka Daniel V Klein) The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > O most realistic Oracle, please tell me: > > Why do I never get the chance to betray a woman's love for $2 million? And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } Hi there, Lisa here. } } Orrie couldn't come up with anything better than a comment about the } size of your biceps, so I decided I'd answer this question for him, } to try and bring more of a female perspective in. } } Really, the source of the problem is that personal ad that you placed: } } > SWM w/ large potbelly, low IQ, and unpleasant odor seeks SWF for money } > and betrayal. Send photos and measurements to [address removed]. } } Now, women like to have a certain romantic unknown in relationships. } For one thing, labelling a few of your faults up front just gives us } less to complain about. And although we say we like honesty, normal } practice is to just leave the betrayal part implicit. That said, } the main problem is those biceps. If you want to attract a woman that } you can betray for a couple million of dollars, you either have to do } your research and find a drug lordess or pump those guns a bit first. } } You owe Lisa a gym membership for the Oracle. --- 1335-04 -------------------------------------------------------------- Selected-By: Klone (aka Daniel V Klein) The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > Oracle, most...you know, that word that begins with 'i', the one that > means smart...who knows all and sees all, including that word that means > eating fancy food, that one that begins with 'd'. > > How do I make better my...that word that begins with a 'v', means the > words you know...oh, yeah, vocabulary. How do I make my vocabulary > smarter? And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } That question again! So you didn't like my last answer? So you thought } you could post the same question again, hoping it would be answered by } a different incarnation this time??? You are just *so* wrong... } } Fortunately for you I not only empty my trash folder regularly but also } my folder with sent mails. I might have seriously been tempted to } resend my first answer. Would have served you right. } } What about my advice was it you didn't like? The hard work? Well, only } nothing comes from nothing. No pain, no gain. Or don't you have a } dictionary or an encyclopedia? You can always get one from you local } library, you know. Ah... maybe I'm beginning to see the problem here... } uhm. Sorry I've used smart words like dictionary in my answer. You } can't of course understand them. } } But maybe my answer wasn't funny enough for your taste. You were } expecting something that made you rolling on the floor, laughing. An } answer that not only made it into the digest but also into the next } "best of". You were reasoning: I deserve the most funniest answer that } exists in the universe. Or at least you would if you had smarter } vocabulary. } } Sheesh, I can't even remember that sentence with the two factions of } physicists any more... } } So I have to come up with new ways of helping you towards a smarter } vocabulary. Ok, here are.... } } The top ten ways to get a smarter vocabulary: } } 10. Go to a bookstore and ask for "A smarter vocabulary for dummies". } 9. Try the new improved "InstaSmart" (tm). Only $99.99 per sachet. } 8. Send your vocabulary off to a public school, for instance Eton. } 7. Watch some open university programs like "Sesame Street" or } "Teletubbies" on tv. } 6. Emigrate to Australia. You don't *need* smart vocabulary there. } 5. Get a spouse. Your better half usually has a genetic predisposition } (sorry for that. Ask a friend for a translation) to take over your } part of any conversation thus relieving you of the need to get a } better vocabulary. } 4. You can get some smart nigerian vocabulary. All we need from you is } a token payment of $5,000 into our Cayman bank account. } 3. Work in a school or college. Vocabulary has a tendency to "rub } off". } 2. Try to buy one at ebay. } } And the number 1 way to get a smarter vocabulary is... } } 1. Get a speaking parrot. Then pretend you are a ventriloquist. } } You owe the Oracle to learn the word "intelligent" before you repost } the question again. --- 1335-05 -------------------------------------------------------------- Selected-By: Ian Davis The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > Praise the Oracle, no greater glory than to have The Oracle > ponder one's question! > > Would Science exist without the existence of people? > Or is Science an extension of human existence? And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } Your grovel is almost right: the one greater glory is to have the } Oracle pondering one's question while that same one is helping the } staff keep the Temple tidy and well polished. But close enough. } } Ah, now Science... a worthy question indeed! But as appears to be } common for you mortals, you seem to have things a little confused. } Neither of your statements is true. Science neither requires } nor extends from the existence of humans. Rather, it is more the } other way 'round... humans would not exist were it not for the 8th } grade science experiment of a young Mr. Yahweh which went awry. } Let me recall the scene for you: } Mr. Anegnon: Okay class, today we are going to be doing a } demonstration of how to create protoplasm! } Class: "Kewl!" "Ick!" "Will this be on the test?" } Mr. Anegnon: First I need you all to get out your beakers and... } [loud BLAM! comes from the back of class] } Yahweh: Oops! } Mr. Anegnon: Mr. Yahweh! What did you do this time?! } Yaweh: Uhm... } [Mr. Anegnon walks over to Yahweh's station] } Mr. Anegnon: [sternly] Did I tell you to pour in the } proto-protoplasm in yet? } Yahweh: [sheepishly] Uh, no sir. } Mr. Anegnon: That's right! And now... } [Yahweh's lab partner breaks in] } MaryEve: Ooooh! They're so cute!!! } Mr. Anegnon: Pardon? } MaryEve: The little things in Yahweh's flask, Mr. Anegnon! } They're just sooooo adorable! Look at the way they } squirm! I bet they'd be real good at groveling, sir! } Mr. Anegnon: What are you tal... } Yahweh: Oh wow! I mean, like, man!!! You're right MaryEve! } I bet they'd worship me and everything! } Mr. Anegnon: Now just a minute there... } Yahweh: Yeah, I think I'll name this one "Adam", because he } looks kinda like a little "atom" (chuckles to self). } And I'll call this one "Eve" 'cause she's so cute. } (MaryEve blushes) } Yahweh: Yeah, and I'll name some more on down to the seventh } generation, or something. } Mr. Anegnon: That will be enough of that! Mr. Yahweh, I'll have } no "playing god" in this class! I've heard from } Mr. Ethos that you've not been doing well in his } class, and I will not permit you to lord over these... } these... uh, hairless apes of yours! } Yahweh (sulkily): yessir. } Mr. Anegnon: Now flush out your flask and let's start over. } Yahweh: yessir. } [Mr. Anegnon turns to walk back to the front of the class. } Meanwhile Yahweh does a little switcheroo and puts the flask } with his little accident in his pack and pulls out an empty one.] } Mr. Anegnon: [Turning back to face the class, and looking carefully } at Yahweh, seeing him finishing scrubbing his flask] } Very well, as I was saying... } } So you see, you humans were just a science lab accident of some } pimply-faced god-in-training. Your existence is just an extension } of this Science-gone-wrong that he's continued in his basement. } (Just hope his mom doesn't find your little universe down there, } or you'll be put out with the trash!) } } You owe the Oracle some disinfectant. --- 1335-06 -------------------------------------------------------------- Selected-By: lawrence.4@pop.service.ohio-state.edu The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > O Oracle, omniscient and precognitive, > > What disastrous event will ruin this wonderful day? And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } The supplicant whistled as he locked the door to his house and headed } to his car. He had been feeling good all morning, ever since he had } woken up to see the sun shining, gotten his cup of coffee, and done the } one thing truly necessary to confirm the start of the new day: sending } off a cheerful question to the ever humorous Internet Oracle. What } could go wrong on a beautiful day like this? } } As he stepped over to his car, he noticed that a bird had used his } windshield as a lavatory. Several times. But that was okay: he just } got out his trusty cleaning rag and spray and rubbed it right off. And } since he had left for work two hours earlier than he needed too, there } was still no rush. } } He got in and drove down the street, waving at his smiling neighbors. } "How can a day get any better than this?" he thought to himself as he } absent mindedly backed over his mail box, crushing it. Seeing what he } had done, he grinned sheepishly and went and chopped off a branch, } which he then proceeded to carve into a new pole to replace the broken } out before he continued on his way to the freeway on-ramp. } } Not ten seconds later, traffic crawled to a halt. But the supplicant } didn't mind, because he was still one and a half hours ahead of } schedule and he had his favorite tape playing. Just then, the tape } deck began to screech and ooze out the melted tape. He frowned, but it } was okay, because he could always listen to the radio. } } Thirty minutes later, he had moved ten feet forward. And then his } radio went out. That distracted him, but he didn't mind because he } could spend the time wondering what had happened to the radio. And he } still had an hour before he needed to get to work. } } Seven minutes later, a falling radio satellite crashed down from the } sky and crushed his car, causing a huge fire. Luckily, a courageous } motorist in a different vehicle pulled him out just in time before his } car exploded in a massive fireball, and the EMTs that arrived thirty } minutes later took him off to the hospital to be treated for the third } degree burns over 90% of his body. But he didn't mind, mainly because } he was unconscious. Even had he been conscious, though, he would still } not have minded, because he would have been satisfied knowing why his } radio had suddenly stopped working. } } Half an hour later, he woke up in the Emergency Room, during a surgery. } He began screaming, but he didn't mind too much, because he realized } that it would have been time for work now, and this would certainly be } considered an excused absence. } } That evening, they even rolled a computer next to his hospital bed so } that he could check his e-mail from the day. "How nice of them," he } thought. "I was pessimistic to think that a disaster could come and } ruin such a nice day." And there in his inbox was the answer to the } question he had asked that morning. } } He smiled gleefully, causing himself only minor discomfort by } stretching the burnt flesh, as he opened the message. } } --msg 1 of 1-- } } The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. } Your question was: } } > O Oracle, omniscient and precognitive, } > } > What disastrous event will ruin this wonderful day? } } And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } } } hOw shOulD I nO } } ZZZZZZZZZ-OT! } } --end msg 1 of 1-- } } And then the supplicant broke down in tears, for the answer was } terrible, and receiving it had ruined his whole day. --- 1335-07 -------------------------------------------------------------- Selected-By: Christophe The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > Wise Oracle most worldly and hale, > > Is time on Mars the same as time on Earth? And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } Well, no. You see, it's like this. } } The sidereal rotational period of Earth is 23h 56m 4s, and its tropical } orbit period 365d 5h 48m 46s, so it rotates about 366.24258 times } during each orbit. But since it orbits as it goes around the sun, one } of those rotation is, in effect, cancelled out, so there are an average } of 365.24258 "days" per "year", and each "day" is, on average, 24 } hours. This is the basis of the Earth's calendar system. } } Now Mars has a sidereal rotational period of 24h 37m 22s and a tropical } orbit period of 686d 23h 21m 7s, which gives 669.59756 rotations per } orbit, which gives 668.59756 days per year, and an average day of 24h } 39m 35s. } } Now you can imagine the problems with imposing a Terran calender on } Mars. Firstly, the days are 40 minutes out of sync. Set your alarm } clock to 8am, and two weeks later you'll be waking up in the middle of } the night. Speaking of weeks, if we use seven Martians days a week, } Mars gets 95 weeks and three-or-four days per year. } } Months. The word 'month' comes from 'moon', and Earth's moon is a ruddy } big one, and goes around every four weeks or so. Mars has two tiny } titchy little moons, which go around it every couple of days. Not much } to go on, so we might pick an artificial month, just for convenience's } sake. Let's have, oh, fourteen months a year, that's } forty-seven-and-a-bit days on average. (Nobody said we have to have } twelve months a year.) That makes ten months of 48, and four of 47 days } (but see below). } } Now of course there's the same problem Earth has, that the years don't } divide nicely into days, so we have leap years. Mars could manage quite } nicely with 668.6 days per year, which means extra days every three } years out of five, but the .5975 bit means we have to leave off one of } those extra days every 400 years, kind of like Earth, really. We still } end up with a surplus, but we don't have to worry about that for a few } millennia. } } So you see, Mars would need a quite different calendar to Earth in } order to function properly. I know this wasn't very funny, but I have } to provide serious answers once in a while, so you lot don't forget I'm } omniscient. } } You owe the Oracle a Mars bar. --- 1335-08 -------------------------------------------------------------- Selected-By: Dr. Noe The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > How much rain > could a train sustain > if the train > was made from woodchuck brain? And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } EXPERIMENT #383 } Conducted 2003-09-10 by The Usenet Oracle, Zadoc, and } Lisa (Motivational support) } } HOW MUCH RAIN A TRAIN MADE OUT OF WOODCHUCK BRAIN CAN } SUSTAIN } } THE OBJECTIVE: } To analyze how much rain a train can sustain if the } train is made from woodchuck brain. The train is } considered as not not being able to sustain any more } rain after it has decomposed to an extent where it is } no longer useful as a train. } } THE MATERIAL: } The Train: } The train is a classic toy style __ ___ _______ } train (model choo-choo) with a ||__|#| ___ |[][][| } locomotive, a coal wagon, and a {|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| } passenger wagon. Four separate /oooo OO O O O O O } trains were built, so that the } experiment could be conducted } with a variety of rains. } } The Brain: } The brain is collected from a .. } total of 274 woodchucks, capable .###. } of chucking 473 pieces of wood *#### } altogether. ** } } The rain: |^| } The rain was dispensed from four | | } separate showers in the shower |*| } room at the local football arena. |_| } } We decided to test the effects of a variety of different rains } to observe the different reactions. We used the following: } } Plain water } Lye } Sulfuric acid } Phenol } } THE EXPERIMENT: } } __ ___ _______ __ ___ _______ } ||__|#| ___ |[][][| ||__|#| ___ |[][][| } {|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| {|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| } /oooo OO O O O O O /oooo OO O O O O O } WATER LYE } } } __ ___ _______ __ ___ _______ } ||__|#| ___ |[][][| ||__|#| ___ |[][][| } {|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| {|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| } /oooo OO O O O O O /oooo OO O O O O O } SULFURIC ACID PHENOL } } We labeled the trains to show what kind of rain they are } sustaining. In this picture, the showers have just been } started, but no reaction has yet been observed. } } __ ___ _______ _. _._ ,_.____ } ||__|#| ___ |[][][| ||_.|=| _._ |[][](| } {|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| (|_|_|_|.|_.|.|__||_| } /oooo OO O O O O O /oooo OO O O O O O } WATER LYE } } "" "" } __ ,__ _______ _" __ " " _____ } ||__|#| ___ |[][][| /|__|#\ ___ /[][][\ } {|_|_|_|.|__i.|__||_| /|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| } /oooo OO O O O O O .oooo OO O O O O O } SULFURIC ACID PHENOL } } Thirty seconds of rain and the following has happened: } *Nothing special with train A (Water) } *The surface of train B (Lye) is crumpling and oozing in } a icky way. } *Not much unusual can be seen at train C (H2SO4), but } Zadoc reports that it is quite hot to the touch. } *Train D (Phenol) is getting slightly deformed, and } emanates a faint smoke. } } __ ___ _______ , . , ,_ _, . } ||__|#| ___ |[][][| |._ |-| . |[-[].| } {|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| ,|_|=|_|.|_-|.|-_||_| } /oooo OO O O O O O /oooo OO O O O O O } WATER LYE } ## } ## ## # ## # ** "* ** } # # ## # # # * " *"** " } --#_/+\ __# ------| __/\"" " * ,--. } ,|_|_|_|./__,.|#=||=| /,_,_\.,==../_-||\ } /oooo OO O O O O O .ooo OO O . O O . } SULFURIC ACID PHENOL } } After sixty seconds of rain the following observations } were made: } *Train A is still sustaining the rain. } *The surface of Train B is now boiling as the rain eats } its way down through it. } *Train C has started to smoke fiercly, as well as slowly } melting. } *Train D is now very deformed, and the smoke is getting } thicker. } } __ ___ _______ } ||__|#| ___ |[][][| . , _ , ., ,. , } {|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| |:,..,;-.,,-:.-,,:_. } /oooo OO O O O O O ,..oo ;O O . O . O } WATER # LYE } # #### ## ### ## } #### ##### ## ## # "## "*# ## } # # ### ## ## # # # *" #*##" * } # # # ### ### ## * ** * * } #.##/=\.====.====== ___* "" "__" } /oooo OO O O O O O /_ .\ .-.."/.,.\ } SULFURIC ACID PHENOL } } The status after 90 seconds: } *Nothing has happened to train A. } *Train B is now a writhing, putrid mass of something. } *Train C smokes immensly, still melting down. } *Train D has been reduced to a few lumps of woodchuck } brain. } } We decided that Train B and Train D no longer were useful } as trains, and thus could not sustain more than 90 } seconds of rain. } } __ ___ _______ } ||__|#| ___ |[][][| } {|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| } /oooo OO O O O O O } WATER } } } } } . . . _ . _ _. . . } SULFURIC ACID } } After 120 seconds of rain, Train C was also unable to } sustain more. Still no reaction on Train A. } } __ ___ _______ } ||__|#| ___ |[][][| } {|_|_|_|.|__|.|__||_| } /oooo OO O O O O O } WATER } } After 24 hours of rain and still no reaction on Train A, } we decided that Train A could sustain a Very Long (tm) } time of rain. } } CONCLUSION: } To answer your question, supplicant, it is difficult to } give an answer because, as above experiment showed, the } amount of rain the train can sustain very much depends } on what kind of rain it is. Therefore, we do not } recommend you to attempt to travel with a train made out } of woodchuck brain if the weather forecasts any lye } rains in the near future. } } You owe the Oracle a way to dispose of all the woodchuck } corpses. --- 1335-09 -------------------------------------------------------------- Selected-By: Otis Viles The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > dou=los seu= pro\s to\n ginw/skonta pa/nta > h(me/ras te kai\ nukto/s te kai\ ma/ntha > pante/ssi, xa/ris. > > le/ge pro/s me kata\ tou=to e)n au)tofw/nw| > xrhsmw|= mega/listo. ei)/ ge me\n o(doi=si > anere/ssi le/gw de\ u)/brei kalhsa/menoi/ soi > a)ti/mistos le/gei to\ misqe/ein se, > a)nqrwpokte/nwmen dh\ au)tou/s; me ou) mh\ zw/te > za/omenon u(pe\r seu=. And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } Well, of course it doesn't compile: } } > > seu= pro\s } Remember that blanks end a command? So you are not initializing seu } with pro you are initializing seu with "". } \s is still performed on pro but variables are immutable with backslash } operations so pro is not altered. } } > > to\n ginw/skonta pa/nta } That's an infinite loop. Ok, you later leave with an "eXtended Address" } jump to the address in ris but it's still bad style. } } > > h(me/ras te kai\ nukto/s te kai\ } You realize that you assign the crypted string me to kai only to } immediately overwrite kai with a typcast of nukto to string? Why? } } > > ma/ntha pante/ssi, xa/ris. } > > } The empty line acts as block-end for the loop you started with to\n. } Ok. But xa/ris is an *unconditioned* long jump. Why start a loop in the } first place? } } > > le/ge pro/s me kata\ } Ok. } } > > tou=to e)n au)tofw/nw| } It's better style to write each case into a seperate line, like: } e)n } au)tofw/nw| } } > > xrhsmw|= mega/listo. } You "or" you're register set here with a decimal in mega (M) notation. } Your registers together have 48 bits. listo in mega notation 16. But } the |- doesn't know that. So, xr are or'ed with listo and hsmw are ored } with whatever is in the memory position &listo+2 onwards. This is } uninitialized data - unless you are trying to implement a random number } generator this makes no sense (try num/\rand/ for random } numbers) } } > > o(doi=si } Typo there, I think. You surely mean o)doi=si? } } > > a)ti/mistos le/gei to\ misqe/ein se, } > > a)nqrwpokte/nwmen dh\ } Duplicate label error. Labels may only be used once in any switch. } } > > za/omenon u(pe\r seu=. } You don't need to free seu. The garbage collector will do that for you. } } Sorry, but I have to give you a "D" for that. You really *should* have } read "Kinkos for dummies" which I suggested as good course-related } reading at the beginning of the term. } } You owe the Oracle a better editor for coding in Whitespace. --- 1335-10 -------------------------------------------------------------- Selected-By: Klone (aka Daniel V Klein) The Internet Oracle has pondered your question deeply. Your question was: > O greatest Oracle, w > system of writing wi > s form a continuohs > wr I demonstrate uie > eeo the idea. Iiscs > nthe am always t ht > twkIder to retc p > ye i rannot baoatamo > rlrl;ac is tedlnotaf > a e sh ton?h ,d ,hk > netoi yas er f ,et > ohtthtlhaer iwtin sh > ita tirW .tghhnol e > t ms aelc hciadbiim > ug mrsekam ti t okt > lnoeof nosaer onde a > oines reve esle y el > vv ,revewoH .sihtal > eah yb daer ot reis, > r a detnevni evah I And in response, thus spake the Oracle: } The reason? } } You're not following } } THE TOP TEN SYSTEMS TO TYPE } } 10. The syst } your que } o easem } so .)yt } it( noiy } desu uo } } 9. BETTER } H } IS } S } } 8. Y } OUC } ANMAK } E L I } T TLE } FIGURESLIKE } THISHOUSE.. } } 7. BB I GGG } B B I G } BB I G GG } B B I G G } BBB I GGG } _ _ _ _ _ } 6. /|/_/,||||| } /_|_\|| |||| } //||_/\_||||| } } 5. t3h 0r4c13 10v35 h4x0r-sp34k!! } } 4. YUO CNA TYPEXOR IN AOL-SPAEK 2!!!!!11 } } 3. You can srcabmle the ltetres too as long as the frsit and lsat } ltetr is rghit. } } 2. Or if y*u w**t to g*t a b*t m**e h**d-c**e y*u c*n t**e l**e t**s. } } 1. Ultra-compression: . } } You owe the Oracle some ultra-compressed p.. eh, magazines. You know } what I mean.